The View From 1776

The American Mobocracy

A hate crime is becoming whatever private thought or belief fails to conform to the liberal-progressive shibboleths of the moment.  Mobs are at the ready to crush dissenters.

Thanks to Barton Bennett, who alerted me to this post on the Vox Populi website:

The Gates of Hell shall not prevail

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 04/06 at 11:26 PM
  1. Thomas,

    The writer of the blog you cite makes sweeping statements on what Christians should do in the face of the Indiana debate. He speaks as though he is speaking for all Christians.

    In reality, there is wide diversity of opinion within the Christian church on the question of same sex unions. So it would probably be more precise for the writer to use the term "certain conservative Christians" when he opines on his brand of Christianity.
    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  on  04/07  at  10:52 AM
  2. There was a very good video on the web which asked "Did you ever try and buy a gay cake from a Muslim?" The producer is a gay male with a great sense of humor who went to several Muslim bakeries and asked for a wedding cake for his upcoming nuptials with a picture of Gary and himself holding hands. In some stores he asked for an inscription, such as, "Gary and John--two Gay Dudes!" or "Gary, I'll love you forever."

    The videos showed the Muslim proprietors behind the counters, squirming and shaking their heads "no" and pointing down the street toward other bakeries. None would accept the order. This has not gone mainstream, because only Christians are subject to attack for their beliefs. Muslims can do whatever they want--chop off heads, refuse gay cakes, abuse child brides, etc.
    Posted by BILL GREENE  on  04/07  at  07:12 PM
  3. Bill,

    While I am not defending the practices and beliefs of Muslims, on a purely argumentative level, the fact that there are no doubt some Muslim proprietors who would refuse to decorate a cake with a same sex message does not justify making the giant leap to therefore assume that ALL "Muslims can do whatever they want - chop off heads, etc..."

    The "fallacy of composition" assumes what is true of the parts is true of the whole.

    And I am sure you don't mean to argue that because some people get away with bank robbery, that we should therefore not discourage bank robbery.


    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  on  04/10  at  10:07 AM
  4. Jay--you argue irrationally--bank robbery is not in any way related to owner-proprietors refusing customer orders. Get real!

    And you twist my message, create a straw horse, and straddle and muddle the whole issue regarding Muslims with your fallacy of composition lingo: My point concerned the mainstream media that will attack one Christian who refuses to decorate a cake, but will not attack those Muslims who denigrate women, commit honor killings, female circumcission, suicide bombingds of civilians, refuse gay cakes, abuse child brides, kidnap women and girls as sex slaves, and chop off heads and slit throats.

    It is not a "giant leap" to state that Muslims can do these horrific acts and there is almost no condemnation from our President or the mainstream media. I didn't say all Muslims do those things, but for those who do, we hear little criticism--Yet--let one unprepared shopkeepr say something about not baking a gay cake and all hell breaks loose. It is atis double standard that you defend and I deplore.
    Posted by BILL GREENE  on  04/10  at  12:20 PM
  5. Bill,

    Your point is understood, except that you are comparing the criminal behavior of individuals in the middle east (Suni, Shia, Turk, Persian, or whatever brand they happen to be) to what is allowed in this country. So, in that sense, you are comparing apples and oranges. We do not take as our standard what is allowed in other countries due to theocratic laws or due to the disintegration of all law because of war.

    The mainstream media does in fact report on the horrific crimes that occur in the middle east, but to a lesser extent than they do about events in this country, because, by and large, most Americans are woefully uninterested in what happens beyond the border of the US.
    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  on  04/19  at  04:11 PM
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