The View From 1776

Do You Really Want to Follow Jesus?

Jesus’s ministry sets out the path for us.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 06/01 at 12:43 AM
  1. A very important part of that sermon is missed by many.

    Jesus put God first, not himself, nor did he say man should put Jesus first, but God. Jesus was leaving this earth to return to the Father for his mission and God's will for him had been completed.

    Each day, we are called to carry out God's will, not really Jesus' will although doing God's will is doing the will of Jesus for He is part of God and never disagrees because He is part of God.

    But, that doesn't mean we are all called to lead the life Jesus did and later verses in the New Testament tell us that all our occupations are important if they are God's will. Whether we marry or don't, take this job or not, live here or there is all supposed to be preceded by "God? Is this your will?

    That is what Jesus wanted us to follow. It was that example of total obedience to God. In that verse in the Garden, Jesus asked that if the cup could be removed, it was Jesus will to do so.

    That is the proof that Jesus didn't want us carrying out His will for what he did here but, God's will. All that he told his disciples to do came from God, not from Jesus because Jesus had that perfect communication path with God that allowed him to check everything He did with the will of God, including death.

    I am not too good, maybe, in saying this, but, I hope you see what I mean about focusing on God the Father and using Jesus as the example of one who was perfect in his focus on God's will for Him.
    Posted by JanPBurr  on  06/01  at  01:57 AM
  2. I realize there is a tendency to separate this discussion from the political realm, but as JanPBurr suggests in his comment, it is important that we apply the message to our day-to-day lives.

    Therefore, it would be interesting to consider what would Jesus's message be to us concerning the treatment of our enemies, particularly those we have captured, and whether it is possible to apply Matthew 5:39 and 5:44 in today's environment. Perhaps those verses are no longer operable.
    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  on  06/01  at  11:28 AM
  3. Deterministic systems, ideological symbols of abdication
    by man from his natural role as earth's Choicemaker,
    inevitably degenerate into collectivism; the negation of
    singularity, they become a conglomerate plural-based
    system of measuring human value. Blunting an awareness
    of diversity, blurring alternatives, and limiting the
    selective creative process, they are self-relegated to
    a passive and circular regression.

    Tampering with man's selective nature endangers his
    survival for it would render him impotent and obsolete
    by denying the tools of variety, individuality,
    perception, criteria, selectivity, and progress.
    Coercive attempts produce revulsion, for such acts
    are contrary to an indeterminate nature and nature's
    indeterminate off-spring, man the Choicemaker.

    Until the oppressors discover that wisdom only just
    begins with a respectful acknowledgment of The Creator,
    The Creation, and The Choicemaker, they will be ever
    learning but never coming to a knowledge of the truth.
    The rejection of Creator-initiated standards relegates
    the mind of man to its own primitive, empirical, and
    delimited devices. It is thus that the human intellect
    cannot ascend and function at any level higher than the
    criteria by which it perceives and measures values.

    Additionally, such rejection of transcendent criteria
    self-denies man the vision and foresight essential to
    decision-making for survival and progression. He is left,
    instead, with the redundant wreckage of expensive hind-
    sight, including human institutions characterized by
    averages, mediocrity, and regression.

    Humanism, mired in the circular and mundane egocentric
    predicament, is ill-equipped to produce transcendent
    criteria. Evidenced by those who do not perceive
    superiority and thus find themselves beset by the shifting
    winds of the carnal-ego; i.e., moods, feelings, desires,
    appetites, etc., the mind becomes subordinate: a mere
    device for excuse-making and rationalizing self-justifica-

    The carnal-ego rejects criteria and self-discipline for such
    instruments are tools of the mind and the attitude. The
    appetites of the flesh have no need of standards for at the
    point of contention standards are perceived as alien, re-
    strictive, and inhibiting. Yet, the very survival of our
    physical nature itself depends upon a maintained sover-
    eignty of the mind and of the spirit.

    It remained, therefore, to the initiative of a personal
    and living Creator to traverse the human horizon and
    fill the vast void of human ignorance with an intelli-
    gent and definitive faith. Man is thus afforded the
    prime tool of the intellect - a Transcendent Standard
    by which he may measure values in experience, anticipate
    results, and make enlightened and visionary choices.

    Only the unique and superior God-man Person can deserved-
    ly displace the ego-person from his predicament and free
    the individual to measure values and choose in a more
    excellent way. That sublime Person was indicated in the
    words of the prophet Amos, "...said the Lord, Behold,
    I will set a plumbline in the midst of my people Israel."
    Y'shua Mashiyach Jesus said, "If I be lifted up I will
    draw all men unto myself."

    As long as some choose to abdicate their personal reality
    and submit to the delusions of humanism, determinism, and
    collectivism, just so long will they be subject and re-
    acting only, to be tossed by every impulse emanating from
    others. Those who abdicate such reality may, in perfect
    justice, find themselves weighed in the balances of their
    own choosing.

    "No one is smarter than their criteria."firm74 selah jfb
    Posted by Jim Baxter  on  06/01  at  11:29 AM
  4. Not to detract from Jesus, let's talk about another person who was also considered a messiah, Ronald Regean.

    From Paul Krugman I've learned that it was Reagan who did it, who set America of on the course to financial ruin with the implementation of the Garn-St. Germain Depository Institutions Act. That Act took apart the safety features that were put into place to prevent financial institutions from doing stupid things like those that brought on the Great Depression.

    Read the story here:

    Some people continue to believe that the New Deal prolonged the Depression. Not so. It lasted a long time because it took time to work out and overcome the destructive things that led to it. Similarly, this Recession is going to take some time to work out because of what the financial industry was allow to get away with.

    George Bush, being a disciple of Regean, vigorously continued on of the course he set of deregulation, making America even more vulnerable to financial disaster.

    Bush said Jesus was his favorite philosopher. I wonder if Bush would have listened to Jesus if he had told him not to be so reckless with America's finances. Nevertheless, praise the Lord that Bush didn't get his hands on Social Security, as he wanted.
    Posted by David Airth  on  06/01  at  11:53 AM
  5. From Jesus to Paul Krugman? Talk about from the sublime to the ridiculous. Congress passed the legislation by a 3 to 1 margin. A congress controlled by Democrats. Who could have imagined that Ferdie St Germain was the influence peddling crook he turned out to be. Were Fannie, Freddie and the CRA all created durring the Reagan administration? Krugman's a partisan hack.
    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  on  06/01  at  01:15 PM
  6. Correct Tom. Reagan couldn't have done a thing if Congress, controlled by the democrats didn't want it done.

    Deals like that are worked out between both parties and then they "buy" the votes with pork, committee appointments, getting the representative's bills through committee, etc.

    Anybody that thinks either party is better than the other when it comes to doing what the banking cartel tells them to do is mistaken. They both fill their appointees from the CFR and Trilateral Commission and have representatives attending the Bilderberg meetings, like just occurred where several of President Obama's administration were attendees.
    Posted by JanPBurr  on  06/01  at  01:21 PM
  7. Regean charmed the Democratic Congress to pass the legislation. Anyway, if more wise heads had prevailed on both sides it wouldn't have passed. However, America was domed and determined to take this course. It was providence and in its DNA.

    If Regean had not truly loved and believed in the legislation he would have vetoed it. He was so happy and proud to sign the it. You could see his chest puffing out and hear it in his voice. It was his administration's baby. He opened the flood gate to reckless spending, like with his investing in Star Wars.

    Talking about the Congress, many of the dastardly deeds done during the Clinton administration, which you brickbats go on about, were done with the aid of a Republican Congress.
    Posted by David Airth  on  06/01  at  02:35 PM
  8. Exactly David. That is why Congress, not the Presidents are more to blame. We elect them to check the power of the President and he to check their power.

    Thus, when the two parties meet behind closed doors to agree on these things to keep the bankers happy, we are all being hurt. Neither party is any good.

    Reagan did what his advisers said was best. Clinton did what his advisers said was best, like NAFTA, and both Presidents were using advisers from the CFR and Trilateral Commission and Bilderbergs. Presidents are just fronts for those who have the power behind the scenes and they use the Presidents (and Congress) to play the people like a violin.

    Now, what would Jesus have done? Simple, he threw the money changers out of the Temple and that means that since both parties represent the bankers, he would throw all of them out too, in both parties.

    Jesus didn't tolerate corruption and fraud and abuse of people by the money changers and he wouldn't tolerate either of these two political parties and what they have done to the people for 95 years.
    Posted by JanPBurr  on  06/01  at  03:43 PM
  9. JanPBurr,

    You talk as though things could have been different. I don't think so.

    Funny, a lot of the troubles today incurred under two Jesus men, Ronald Regean and George Bush.

    Of course presidents are to blame, just like CEO's are if their companies tank on their watch. But in blaming Congress you are really blaming the American people, where the blame should also lie. So everybody has been complicit in the scheming and are guilty by association.

    What happened 95 years ago? Things before then were not any better, but worse.
    Posted by David Airth  on  06/01  at  04:46 PM
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