The View From 1776

Disturbing Prospects for Our Future

The United States already is being out-musseled in strategic parts of the world by China and the European Union, the two main challengers to America’s superpower status.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/27 at 05:48 PM
  1. I agree we are being muscled out but, not necessarily with all the article linked to calls for.

    Europe is not that strong but looks stronger due to the euro's climb which hasn't been so much a climb as the dollar dropping to it. Russia is not necessarily going to be how the article paints it nor India if it continues to wake up and make advances.

    But, for us living in the U.S., who muscles us out isn't as important as the fact somebody is doing it.

    Or, are they even doing it? Instead of them out muscling us out, aren't we really just losing our muscle through internal disease. Is it so much them being stronger (they are) as it is us losing strength and no longer gaining the economic strength that would keep us up with their gains?

    We are witnessing one of those world history events that like the fall of the Roman Empire or the British Empire, students will learn about for decades. They will study the "rise and fall" of the economic empire of America.
    Posted by JanPBurr  on  01/27  at  09:06 PM
  2. Well said, Jan.

    Our Free nation seeks not to rule others but to extend a natural Freedom based on an accurate definitive in human nature. Losing our own perception of who we are is the major factor in our abdication among nations and superior human ways.

    Every generation must learn what prior generations have known. Failing that, decline is and will be a natural result.

    semper fidelis
    vincit veritas
    Posted by Jim Baxter  on  01/28  at  02:03 AM
  3. Let us not forget that both parties are responsible for the problems with Chinese power.

    As far as learning from history goes, it is clear that those of the religious right haven't a clue regarding the alliances of church and state in the past.

    The rise of Church-state alliances: 306-565: Emperors Constantine thru Justinian

    http://www.stopthereligiousright.org/alliancetoc.htm

    The Rise of Protestant Alliances of Church and State: Ulrich Zwingli and The Swiss Reformation 1484-1531

    http://community-2.webtv.net/westernworld/ZWINGLI/
    Posted by James Veverka  on  01/28  at  09:50 AM
  4. So you equate 'problems' as caused by 'both parties' re relations with China?

    What is China's definition of human nature? Why does it collectivize its own people - let alone others? Criteria?

    'Power to the state' does not begin with a human definitive that is accurate. They will not only cause problems for their own and others, but they will not be able to sustain control into an indefinite future.

    Only the Creator who made human in His own image is qualified to define us. Psalm 25:12 kjv

    semper fidelis
    vincit veritas
    Posted by Jim Baxter  on  01/28  at  10:01 AM
  5. Jim, don't confuse "church" with religion. All religions though their "churches" are threats to man. The religions of atheism and secular humanism are threats as well. Any group of people who join together in their common beliefs become a "church" and when they attempt to impose their will on the rest of the religions, as the examples you used did, then man is going to suffer.

    All men are religious. Some are religious and seek a spiritual god while others seek and earthly god like wealth, peace, industrial might or environmental harmony, etc. and attempt to gain political power to impose their will on the rest.

    China is a result of both parties but so are the other nations in the WTO, NAFTA, CAFTA, etc. Both parties are responsible for the wars we are in and have been in.

    As our founders warned,
    "Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." -
    -- John Adams
    =========================

    We are in the process of doing that thanks to almost 100 years of bad policies that moved us from a Republic to a democracy.

    Right now, consumer debt, not federal debt, is the biggest threat. It is also hurting cities and states where debt is causing them to now call for cuts in benefits and services to their people due to falling tax revenues from the housing collapse caused by debt.
    Posted by JanPBurr  on  01/28  at  10:13 AM
  6. No, I do not agree that "all religions, through their 'churches,' are a threat to man."

    Only the humanistic man-made ones. Small wonder you draw so many equations between GOD's reality and man's delusion.

    I, therefore, question your ultimate trust in GOD and His revelations to man. Confidence in man is an unworthy faith in his universe-sized ignorance and ego-centric viewpoint.

    semper fidelis
    vincit veritas
    Posted by Jim Baxter  on  01/28  at  10:47 AM
  7. That is because you don't understand that the majority of churches are man's creation, not God's.

    There is only one true church and that is the church of those who follow God's will not the will of men or a minister or a group of "church" leaders.

    It isn't the religion nor all churches in the religion. It is only churches in a religion that decide they must impose their will on the rest of the churches in their religion and other churches in other religions.

    Not all Secular Humanists are as much a threat as others. Only the ones who seek to use the power of government to impose their will on the rest of the citizens are the big threat.

    The wars that were "religious" wars between various religion were not because the entire religion wanted war but because some leaders in those religions wanted war. If that war wasn't based on God's will, but on man's will, it was wrong and it was evil.

    Today, if a Church seeks to use the Federal government to impose its will on the people, it is wrong. Morality is a state issue left to the people in each state under a state constitution to decide with federal oversight by Congress.

    God has to be the leader of man, not a church made by man.
    Posted by JanPBurr  on  01/28  at  11:13 AM
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